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have noticed sensibly, because in the first way, having to obey
the confessor when he would come to wake me up, I would

see him from the place where Jesus would lead me that
is, from the ends of the earth, or from the air, or from the
mountains, or from the Sea, or from Purgatory, or even from
Heaven Itself. Even more, it seemed to me that I would not

have enough time, so that the soul would be found in the
body by the confessor, and therefore I would not be able to

obey. It seemed that, so far away as I was with my soul I
say, it seemed to me that I would bustle about, and become
all anxious and worried that I might not be able to let myself
be found there in time by the confessor, and therefore I would

not be able to obey. However, I confess that I have always
found myself there in time, and it seemed to me that the soul
would enter into the body before the confessor would begin

to give me the obedience to wake up.

Even more, I tell the Truth, many times from afar I could
see the confessor coming, but in order not to leave Jesus, it

seemed that I would not think that the confessor was coming;
and then Jesus, He Himself, would hurry me to return with
the soul into the body so as to be able to obey the confessor.

And then I would feel a great reluctance of leaving Jesus,
but obedience would win; and in leaving Jesus, He Himself
would either kiss me or embrace me, or would do something
else to take leave of me. And I, upon leaving my dear Jesus,

would say to Him: “I go to the confessor, but You, my Good
Jesus come back soon, as soon as the confessor goes.”

These, then, are the two ways in which the soul seemed
to go out of the body, and in these two ways in which the soul
goes out, God speaks to me.

This way of speaking, He Himself calls intellectual
speaking. I will try to explain it: after the soul has gone
out of the body, finding herself before Jesus, she has no need

of words in order to understand what the Lord wants to tell
her; nor does the soul need to speak in order to make herself
understood; but by means of the intellect O! how well we

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